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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2009, 11:59:31 AM »
They dont even have to read. I put the link right in there!  ;D

Besides, there may be 2 or 3 people who accidentally stumble upon the page that possess a brain!  :ninja: maybe?  :-\
I would rather have a mind opened by wonder instead of one slammed shut by belief.

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2009, 12:03:45 PM »
Signed and passed around! We are all praying :thumbsup:

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2009, 12:10:49 PM »
Besides, there may be 2 or 3 people who accidentally stumble upon the page that possess a brain!  :ninja: maybe?  :-\
No, not really. Try the short-track board if you actually want people to sign. The rest of them are of the "FCL THE CHEATERRRR!!! URNHARDT!!!!!1" mode. I didn't think racing forums got worse than Rubbins-Racin, but I was wrong.

Then again, your mileage may vary.

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2009, 12:23:52 PM »
The true level of moronic stupidity going around is a joy to behold - most other forums I've seen this mentioned on are full of people saying things like (translated into English with proper punctuation as that doesn't seem to exist on most American motorsport forums:) "Why did Long cheat if he was just going to be parking?" and other such well informed garbage.

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2009, 12:38:25 PM »
I've yet to hear the "p word" come up....

But I've been trodding through drek as well. Just crap like, "He shouldn't have cheated." Or "That's what happens if you break the rules."

Thankfully, someone smarter than I has usually already came back and replied with the logistics of the matter, Carl & DD's response and the actual facts as opposed to whatever 1-sentence headline the above mentioned morons might have read (after hours of hard work and concentration) before jumping to their un-advised pre-conceived verdict of guilty. Then releasing their ignorance upon the world via message boards and blog replies.

Afterwards, the idiot usually shuts up and remains silent on the matter until drunkingly chiming in with the, "whut du y'all thank? he ought not to be fined? heck naw! he broke dem dar rules! why y'all sayin' he shouldn't be havin' no fine?"

I've yet to read where ANYONE, even us, the most avid of Carl Long fans, have stated that they believe he should walk away Scot-Free (pun-intended Mike!  :P) simply because he's an underdog with an underfunded team!!! All everyone's been saying is that the punishment far outweighs the crime + there was never any INTENT to cheat or break the rules.

Then there's always the fad-fan teen chiming in with, "Who is Carl Long anyway?" To which I've responded, "if you have to ask, you're obviously not a fan of the sport to begin with...your opinion has no merit."  Obviously these same "fans" of NA$CAR are completely unaware of the true fan's best utility/friend....a little site called www.racing-reference.info  (not to mention other no-brainers like jayski & google)  ::)

But actually, overall, I've been rather pleased reading most of the responses to this matter so far. I'd say a good 2/3 have been very positive....and more than that have been very anti-NA$CAR which is always nice to read too!  ;) 
I would rather have a mind opened by wonder instead of one slammed shut by belief.

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2009, 12:57:04 PM »
I don't know what I'm more upset about this week. Carl getting the ridiculous penalty, or my buddy Stanton Barrett missing the Indy 500. (For those who didn't know I'm more of a Stanton Barrett fan, even though I still like Carl a TON). Probably Carl, because it's more detrimental to his career.

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2009, 01:03:49 PM »
Speaking of Racing-Reference, somebody should post a link there on their new message boards!

That is, if their boards still exist. LILK said it was worse than Rubbins-Racin. But hopefully it's improved. The people who do Racing-Reference are great folks
« Last Edit: May 22, 2009, 01:39:36 PM by Fish »
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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2009, 01:34:23 PM »
Done!  ;)  Good idea!  :thumbsup:
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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2009, 04:43:09 PM »
We are doing good!  Keep posting these links to the petition.   :thumbsup:  Also, somebody should e-mail Mike Joy, Larry Mac, and DW and thank them for supporting Carl and tell them to help us get the word out about our petition, and maybe a fund drive for later (hopefully we will not need that).
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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2009, 06:14:53 PM »
Matt, your petition says Carl and DeeDee were fined $200K...is this the case or are they going to take on the burden of paying Charles Swing's fine?

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He also would like to see Swing's fine reduced, because if a crew chief doesn't pay a fine, it falls to the car owner. And in this case, that's the Longs.

"I can never pay it," Long said. "It won't ever happen. I'll cease to have a NASCAR license. ... All my life, everything I've done has all been to race, and I've really wanted to set NASCAR records ? not this one."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/9598424/Long-appeals-record-penalty,-returns-to-track

If Charles Swing does not pay the fine Carl & DD have too, or cease to have a NA$COW license.

GO Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, David Stremme, and Carl Long!

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2009, 08:23:43 PM »
I think we need to make this thread a sticky. ;)
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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2009, 01:40:15 PM »
DAMMM I'M SOOOOO MAD AT NASCAR!!!!!!  This is so wrong, little guy gettin screwed again.
Carl, hope you win appeal, I truly believe you did not try to cheat, best of luck and God bless you.

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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2009, 05:41:11 PM »
I signed, sealed, delivered, and I am yours O0
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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2009, 06:49:20 PM »
Ladies & Gentlemen, Mr. Stevie Wonder is now a poster! DJalltheway, I never knew you moonlighted as an artist! ;D
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Re: "Carl Long's Penalty Is Too Severe" -- Online Petition
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2009, 07:20:15 PM »
yep, been on tour for the past year... lol, jk, rofflecoppter


my life has pretty much sucked for the past few months, so I haven't really checked the boards or anything for a while... but i figured what better time to start posting again then now to show support for good ol' Carl
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